A bi-weekly talk show focusing on the history of Scouting as told through the world of Scout collecting, patches and memorabilia.

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ClothTalk 020 - In one Accord

by Ben Killen on December 30th, 2006

Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Fall fellowship

From everyone at the Scout History Project, best wishes for a happy and healthy NEW YEAR!

This episode is brought to you at 60 miles per hour! We are actually all in the same place to record this week! Chris brings us a great wiki tip and Ben remands us about the e-newsletter. Our feature guest, Brandon Ellis, interviews young and old at his Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Lodge 70 Fall fellowship. Find out about the collection that was obtained by trading an iPod! Trading an iPod for patches?? …Only at Jambo.

Happy New Year from the ClothTalk gang. We look forward to a great 2007. Once again, thanks for listening… and we will be back in a few weeks.

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ClothTalk is a part of The Scout History Project. Find out more at ScoutHistory.net

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Keywords: Tsoiotsi Tsogalii, Brandon Ellis, Podcasting on Wheels, OA, Order of the Arrow, BSA, Boy Scouts of America, ClothTalk, The Scout History Project, Tim Hall, Chris Brightwell, Ben Killen

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ClothTalk 019 - Uniformity

by Ben Killen on December 18th, 2006

The History of the Boy Scouts of America Uniforms By Mitch Reis

This show Mitch Reis (mitchreis.com) is our guest and reveals all about the BSA uniform from the earliest right up to the modern cargo pants! Do you know who designed todays uniform? Mitch does and tell us all about it! Fake uniforms? What? Join us for a great chat with Mitch.

Also this week, Ben, Chris and Tim tell us all about creating a new page on Scout History Wiki. We discover that we have Scouts listening from all over the world. Also, Tim tells how to list to ClothTalk while browsing eBay.

Happy Holidays to all!
From your friends at ClothTalk,
Ben, Chris, Matt, and Tim

ClothTalk: bringing you the history of Scouting through collectibles.

Mitch Reis MitchReis.com A guide to dating and identifying Boy Scouts of America badges, uniform and insignia (Third edition) The Boy Scouts of America during World War I & II The Scout History Project

Keywords: Mitch Reis, History of the Boy Scout Uniform, BSA, Boy Scouts of America, History, ClothTalk, The Scout History Project, Tim Hall, Ben Killen, Chris Brightwell, Matt Sheets

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ClothTalk 018 - The only Cherokee round you’ll ever get

by Ben Killen on December 4th, 2006

Cherokee Fifty - R1 + X1

Ben rides a single-speed bike up an Alabama hill and drives a big truck twenty-two hours to celebrate Thanksgiving!!

This episode Tim, Ben and Chris visit with Julian Simmons an old friend and long-time member of Cherokee Lodge Fifty. (Now merged into Coosa.) Julian tells us about this WAB featured Lodge’s patch issues, fakes and gives us a glimpse of why they were always such a challenging Lodge to collect.

Chris reviews how to look up information in the wiki and Ben reminds you to sign up for the ClothTalk e-newsletter.

As always thanks for listening and drop us a note at clothtalk at clothtalk dot com.

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Images courtesy of OAimages.com.

Cherokee Fifty -1974 Pow-wow Cherokee Fifty -1975 Pow-wow Cherokee Fifty - F1 Cherokee Fifty - R1 + X1 on neckerchief Cherokee Fifty - S1 Cherokee Fifty - S8 Cherokee Fifty - S9 Cherokee Fifty - S10 Cherokee Fifty - Tri-Lodge Staff Cherokee Fifty - F2 Cherokee Fifty - F4 Cherokee Fifty - R3 Cherokee Fifty - zF3 Cherokee Fifty - zF5

Keywords: Julian Simmons, Cherokee Fifty, Cherokee Lodge Fifty, OA, Order of the Arrow, BSA, Boy Scouts of America, Patch Collecting, OA Flaps, ClothTalk, The Scout History Project, Tim Hall, Chris Brightwell, Ben Killen

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ClothTalk 017 - One Night Wonder

by Ben Killen on November 20th, 2006

Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S1

Our feature this week: Tim And Ben chat with Brandon Ellis from Lodge 70 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii who runs down the patch history of his great lodge—and manages to share a few tales of his own along the way.

Also this episode, Tim, Ben and Chris talk about the Scout History Wiki. Chris leads Tim through the process of creating his Wiki account. You can create one too—its actually quite simple.

We would love to chat with you about your Troop, Lodge, District Council or any other collection you have! Pleasse drop us an email at ClothTalk at ClothTalk dot com.

Once again, thanks for listening to ClothTalk: bringing you the history of Scouting through collectables.

If you’re not watching the enhanced version of this week’s show, feel free to follow along at Tsoiotsi Tsogalii’s page at oaimages.com

Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Website Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S3 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii eA1994 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii J2 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S5 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S8 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S10 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S19 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S22 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S23 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii S24 Keyauwee 70 First flap Tali TakTaki S1b - First flap Tslagi 163 First flap Uwharrie Lodge 208 F3 Wipala Wiki Lodge S51

Keywords: Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Lodge 70, Brandon Ellis, Tim Hall, Ben Killen, Chris Brightwell, The Scout History Project, ClothTalk, Cloth Talk, OAimages.com

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ClothTalk 016 - New York! New York!

by Ben Killen on November 5th, 2006

Bill Mulrenin - the New York OA Trader
This week, Ben and Tim speak to Bill Mulrenin, also known as: the New york OA trader. We talk about scouting in the New York area as well as a few stand-out patches from the region. Visit Bill at NYOATrader.Com

Bill is an Eagle Scout and Vigil Member of Shu-Shu-Gah Lodge 24 in Brooklyn, NY. In Scouting he has received the District Award of Merit, the Silver Beaver, and the Scouter’s Key. He has been active in Scouting since his youth, and has served in a variety of capacities, most currently as the Chartered Organization Representative for the Cub Scout Pack 23 and Boy Scout Troop 23 at Our Lady of Angels in Brooklyn. Outside the unit level, he is a Trustee of the Ten Mile River Scout Camp Museum and Co-Chairman of its’ Memorabilia Committee, the New York State Editor for the Blue Book, and the International Scout Collectors Association Vice-President for New York State.

In the North East? Be sure to visit the 11th annual Trade-O-Ree at Camp Alpine. See ShuShuGah.org for details.

Images courtesy of OAImages.com

Check Out John Pannell’s new blog at: blog.OAImages.com

Also: Tim, Ben and Chris talk about the Scout History Wiki.

As always thank you for listening and drop us a note at ClothTalk at ClothTalk dot com.

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Shu Shu Gah Lodge 24 F1 Shu Shu Gah Lodge 24 R1 Shu Shu Gah Lodge 24 - Sacut Chapter Shu Shu Gah Lodge 24 - 2006 Indian Seminar / TOR John Pannell's Blog - blog.oaimages.com The Scout History Project

Keywords: Bill Mulrenin, New York, New York City, Ten Mile River Scout Camp, Order of the Arrow, Shu Shu Gah Lodge, The Scout History Wiki, The Scout History Project, ClothTalk, Tim Hall, Ben Killen, Chris Brightwell

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ClothTalk 015 - Birds of a feather

by Ben Killen on October 22nd, 2006

Modern Eagle Scout Award - Front

This episode, Tim and Ben talk to Terry Grove about the history of the Eagle Scout award, badges, and accompanying items awarded to Eagle Scouts—and his book on the subject. Terry also has a new book coming out this december about the early years of the Order of the Arrow. Terry is truly and expert in the History of The Eagle award and the History of the Order. We’re honored to have him as a guest.

We also talk to our very own Chris Brightwell about The Scout History wiki and how you can get involved in the project.

Also, we want to design a patch on a future ClothTalk. What are some of your secrets that make up a great patch? What works and what doesn’t? Send us your ideas and we’ll team up with one of the great patch makers and get their ideas on the “perfect” patch. Send your ideas to: ClothTalk@ClothTalk.com

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A comprehensive guide to the Eagle Scout Award - By Terry Grove

About the book: A comprehensive guide to the Eagle Scout Award This is the most comprehensive, up to date book on the history of the Boy Scouts of America’s Eagle Scout Award, and the corresponding medals that have been presented to Boy Scouts, and earlier, Scout Leaders since the first Eagle Scout, Arthur R. Eldred earn his in August of 1912.

Learn about the many differences in requirements, and in the many Eagle Scout Awards that have been made over the years. If you are an Eagle Scout, learn when, and by whom your award was manufactured. Great for dating found or family Eagle Medals.

This book has full color pictures of 16 of the different medals over the years, and many B&W pictures of associated memorabilia such as Eagle Cards, knots, ribbons, pins, and more. Each has a full, precise description of each item and all of the history and research has been done by Dr. Grove, and a group of Scouting memorabilia experts. This is a “MUST HAVE” book for any Scouting memorabilia enthusiast.

Makes a great Eagle Scout gift or a wonderful appreciation gift for your Scoutmaster, or your favorite Adult Scout Leader.

The book is available only from Terry Grove. If you’d like a copy, email us at: ClothTalk@ClothTalk.com and we will put you in touch with Terry.

Old Eagle Scout Award - Front Old Eagle Scout Award - Back Modern Eagle Scout Award - Front Modern Eagle Scout Award - Back Coosa Lodge 50 S23 - 2007 Coosa Lodge 50 S24 - 2007 The Scout History Wiki

Keywords: Terry Grove, Eagle Scout Award, History of the Order of the Arrow, The Scout History Project, The Scout History Wiki, ClothTalk, Tim Hall, Ben Killen, Chris Brightwell.

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ClothTalk 014 - Power source

by Ben Killen on October 9th, 2006

Alaska - Land of the midnight sun

This week Ben and Tim chat with Daniel Hodge—author of the ClothTalk theme song—as he spends his summer in Alaska. We pick his brain about the ‘Land of the Midnight Sun’ and how Scouting and trading has helped him be successful in his life. Also, sit in on our discussion on non-traditional outlets for scouting and hear the history of the Order of the Arrow Legend Song composed by Sam Fairchild.

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Keywords: Daniel Hodge, Sam Fairchild, Non-traditional scouting, music, non-traditional talents, Alaska, Midnight Sun, Tim Hall, Ben Killen.

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ClothTalk 013 - Talking about Patches, right? patches, ri…

by Ben Killen on September 24th, 2006

2006 National Chief: Sean Murray
Tim, Ben and Matt are scattered all over the again and talk to many Scouts from all over the country. Tune in for our most diverse episode yet.

Ever wonder where they keep that National Order of the Arrow Chief’s bonnet when its not on stage at NOAC? 2006 National Chief, Sean Murray, knows and tells us. We also spoke with Ed Bonsford about his National Jamboree Collection. In 1977 Ed traded chunks of coal for a 1964 National Jamboree Neckerchief! Other guests include: Mike Evans, a collector of woven and Black Camp patches; John Pannell webmaster of oaimages.com; Michael Silva, a part of the new collecting generation; Jason Spangler of patchblanket.com; and many more!

Tune in again next time for ClothTalk: bringing you the history of Scouting through collectibles.

2006 National Chief: Sean Murray on stage at NOAC Wyona 18 R1 Coosa 50 B1 (5th Anniversary) Shinnecock 360 s3 Achewon Netopalis 427 b1 1977 National Jamboree Patch 1964 National Jamboree Neckerchief OAimages.com: The internet guide to Order of the Arrow Insignia

Keywords: Patch Collecting, Scout Patches, Patch Trading, Sean Murray, 2006 National Chief, Ed Bonsford, Mike Evans, John Pannell, Michael Silva, Jason Spangler, NOAC, National Order of the Arrow Conference, Ben Killen, Tim Hall, Matt Sheets, The Scout History Project

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ClothTalk 012 - Patches… Wait wait: “Badges”

by Ben Killen on September 10th, 2006


Matt’s back! Ben, Matt and Tim learn about collecting “badges” in the UK and around the world. At the Big Pre-NOAC Trade-o-ree, we had a moment to sit down with Mike Gosseling (also known as ‘The Transatlantic Trader’). Learn about woven badges verses the “Swiss Loom” patches we see most often in America. We also talk to Mike about how he and his fellow British Scouts are preparing to host the 2007 World Jamboree! Be sure to check out the International Badgers Club (www.intbc.org) for more information on patch trading and patch collecting across the globe.

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Keywords: Patch Collecting, Scout Patches, Scout Badges, Patch Trading, Mike Gosseling, Ben Killen, Tim Hall, Matt Sheets, The Scout History Project

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ClothTalk 011 - You will never, ever get this patch

by Ben Killen on August 27th, 2006

Tamet Lodge 225 R1a
This show Tim and Ben speak with Dr. Jeff Morley. Jeff is one of the premier Scouting collecting experts in world. Jeff is a national editor for the Blue Book and, along with Bill Topkis, helped publish the First Flaps Book.

Find out what patches Jeff missed along the way and which one he flew across the USA to pick up. Yes even the top trader has passed up a few deals in his life.

More to come from NOAC in the next few weeks.

Thanks for listening to ClothTalk: bringing you the history of Scouting through collectibles.

Tamet Lodge 225 R1b First Flaps In Color - Dave Thomas (built on the work of Morely and Topkis) 1924 World Jamboree woven patch

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